People publicly sin - outside redressing any scandal and formal disciplinary procedures it's none of our business - they're sinners - just like us - they get themselves into all manner of trouble - just like us - they go to confession and get absolved - just like us. It's God's job to judge them...
Indeed it does include Cardinal O'Brien [and irrespective
of what Pope Francis thinks he can arbitrarily do to his status I prefer
to take the magisterial directive of Pope Pius XII which maintains a Cardinal cannot be stripped of the rank [or for that matter their place
in conclave- but that's another issue] ]
For what exactly did His Eminence do?
Cover up clerical kiddie fiddling?
a string of lovers?
father some kids?
was he shacked up with his
long-term boyfriend or girlfriend?
was he having it away with another
did he run a parish harem of bored housewives?
was he a
frequenter of homosexual establishments?
did he parade round dinner
parties and the Catholic social scene with his young foreign 'boyfriend
of the month'?
or did he join with fellow priests in sex-holiday beanos
to Mykonos or Morocco or Bangkok?
or cruise the gay online scene?
cottaging in the public toilets or Hampstead Heath?
...and do we really need to go through the string of clerics of all ranks who ARE guilty of all these things ??!!
No: he made a few unsuccessful drunken passes at known homosexual clergy when Maggie Thatcher was still PM. Yes a despicable abuse of authority - yes inexcusable behaviour...
been to a westminster metropolitan luvvie Catholic function where a
young monk approaches you to tell you that a group of them are moving on
to a gay sauna after this and would you like to join them? Or a Priest staying-over in the city overnight asks do you want a nightcap in his room?
at these events lose count as to how many times they have to decline the
awfully polite offers for horizontal shenanigans by men and women, clerical, religious and lay..preying on anything with a pulse...like seventies
swingers without the bowl of carkeys
Ask any cleric or ex-seminarian -
even the ones who were never an oil painting - how many times some
priest had 'tried it on' with them over the years...I think you'll be
But I think you'd be more shocked to discover that the
clerics who engage in that sort of reckless feckless drunken stupidity
are often the good men just having a wobble while staying on the rails -
the real scoundrels and reprobates who are 'at it like rabbits' with
anything with a Y chromosome would never do anything so risky.
all these things it's the predominantly innocent ones who fall off the
wagon once or twice who get caught and go to the wall - the real
reckless toe-rags get away with blue murder and never get caught
the Catholic media ever given us an opportunity to comment about the
Cardinal O'Brien case you might have known my opinion regarding the
farce and stitch-up of the poor man.
Malevolent clerical forces knew
exactly all about the gossip of the few drunken fumbling passes made in
the man's earlier years during a sort of mid-life crisis - all known
about for DECADES!!!
But for major spiteful ulterior motives senior
clerics and a few embittered vindictive professional laity conspired
with gay activists to bring the man down.
..it was despicable..deplorable..obscene.
...and the way this new Pope of "Mercy" treated him was shameful and scandalous